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Chat How to manage players with obvious weaknesses(stamina)


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Turn weakness into Strength 

 

We all love a brilliant player don't we. We spend hours searching through thousands of players looking for a handful of potential great ones. How many get overlooked though because of one bad stat or two. I know I will discount a player out of hand due to one iffy stat in a key area. Should we though? What happens if the player in question could turn out to be the best player on the planet but isn't given the chance due to a Red in a certain place.

Imagine scouting through South America more than a decade ago. Would you overlook that young Argentine with the tiny Strength stat and poor Aerial ability. I would have but then I would have missed out on a fresh faced Messi.

I hope to bring you a few of these but today the area i am going to concentrate on is 

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The dreaded Stamina has ruined many a player and save. Can we realistically work around it though? 
Normally we would ignore players completely with a poor rating in this area but what happens if you really want to use a certain player or he is just so good you feel you can make it work.

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Here we have an extreme example to get the point across. Potentially the best player on the planet who can't run to the end of his street without stopping for a breather. Look at those stats though. You want to use him and here is how.

 

Tips

Fixture List

 The fixture list is your friend. You should be checking this before every match and looking at least 3 games ahead. 

 If there is a big game (final or Derby Match) coming up in the next 5 days you may want to rest him before then.

 If you have another game in less than 4 days time then you really need to plan on only playing him for 45 minutes. I would go for the first 45 so he can rest in the second half. If it's a must win game you may be able to stretch this out to 60 minutes but I wouldn't recommend doing this too often or you will get the dreaded Red 'Slightly Tired' message in his personal tab.

 If you are due to play a weak team then this is the chance to rest your star man and keep him fresh for upcoming matches.

 Those big gaps in your fixture list look lovely and you think you have 7-10 days rest. Don't be tempted to play him for 90 minutes because those are not rest days they are International fixtures. His International manager doesn't care about his health and will flog him to death. If he goes away on international duty tired he will come back broken.

 If you are doing a goal based challenge with the player (why the hell would you be so stupid??) you may want to save him for those easy cup games against lower league teams or European minnows.

Training

 In my experience getting stamina up using training only works sometimes. If a player is destined to have low stamina then generally that's how it stays. It's completely different to those teenagers with low stamina because in time their rating will improve on it's own.

 If you insist on giving him a specialist training then again air on the side of less is more. Don't ramp up fitness and attacking  to Intense even though you may be tempted. Intensive fitness alone may be too much for some guys.

 

Routine

 

Get yourself into a groove. Decide on a plan and stick to it. If you decided the main man is coming off after 45 minutes then do it. Don't let the score influence you because you may lose this match but it's better than losing the player for the next 2 games due to his fitness becoming too low. If he has banged in a couple or even a hat trick then don't be afraid to take him off earlier  than planned (i know I said stick to the plan). 
keep checking the pesky personal tab. Any red message there regarding tiredness will kill his goal scoring ability until it goes away. Don't even have him as a sub as I find this restricts their recovery, plus you are tempted to use him if losing. Resting 2 or 3 games is better if he comes back on form and scores right away. Trying to play him when 'Red' will still see good average ratings but the goals WILL dry up.

 

Cheat the system

Become his International manager and manage him well. Juggle your international and club commitments and keep him fresh. Better still, never play him leaving him in a better condition for your club.

 

Managed correctly these players can still do a fantastic job.

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Not bad for someone who plays half a game is it?

 

 

Note. This player is also bugged with going to Argentina every January and returns like a new signing. Red 'struggling to settle' stays with him for a month and his scoring stops for those games. Results could and should be even better.

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Fantastic guide mate. I find that slightly tired message to be so irritating because I have a player with 14 stamina and he gets slightly tired even though he has 14 stamina and 100% energy. Great work. KIU

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Great work mate, some great points. 

Personally I just don't bother with "problem" players, I just don't see the point as there is always another option. If a player gives me grief via stamina, transfer requests or even intensive training I just flog them and move on lol. I do like having small squads though so i never even debate about using someone with poor stamina, what's the point in God like stats else where if he can't play enough to use them. It's similar to the inconsistent God vs the conistent lesser player argument imo. 

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19 minutes ago, billy2shots said:

I'm trying to decide out of Decisions/aggression. Pace will definitely be covered next. 

Expecting!

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Thanks Dec, it had crossed my mind if I'm honest. However I have been quite negative (because I'm so passionate) about the game this year so I'm not sure it would be right to apply. 

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On 30 September 2016 at 08:15, billy2shots said:

I'm trying to decide out of Decisions/aggression. Pace will definitely be covered next. 

Interested to see the pace one, not a stat I priorities but not one I ignore. From my EME experience it does seem more of a key factor on that engine, you see a lot of races between players etc.  

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A winger I use(d) all the time. Guess his stamina

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At his peak it was only 5-6 never stopped him producing magic for 90 minutes from a position and role you'd assume were stamina based.

 

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Players with poor stamina can definitely be worked around. More so than poor stats in other areas. 

Something I didn't mention was it is very league dependent. France and Portugal have lots of games so you often have to play 2 or 3 days later. Other countries put less strain on players. I always find Italy and Germany a nice league to manage in without too many issues around player fitness. 

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33 minutes ago, billy2shots said:

Players with poor stamina can definitely be worked around. More so than poor stats in other areas. 

Something I didn't mention was it is very league dependent. France and Portugal have lots of games so you often have to play 2 or 3 days later. Other countries put less strain on players. I always find Italy and Germany a nice league to manage in without too many issues around player fitness. 

This  player was in Brazil. Lots of games haha

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I can see from the screenshot. 

My comment was more a general one for people to consider. 

I would be interested to know how often that particular player had the red tired message given he played so many 90 minute games. He could have performed better if he was playing when tired. His average rating seems ok but not much more than that to be honest. In that league and the amount of goals that can be scored I would expect mid 8s as an average. In Portugal (not a hugely difficult league but a fair bit more challenging than Brazil) I wouldn't accept anything less than 8 for my attacking wide players with that many assists. 

 

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