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Tactics Tafftastic 442 Attacking (with working IF)


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Hi fellow Vibers we are back with what I believe to be a very good tactic. (please bear with me as there are a lot of pictures and results to share)

Now before I start a huge thanks to stefanusgoldi and rseven for there work on getting your IF to perform better (because believe me it works)

So here we are, its a simple 442 attacking formation with very good results. 

First the tactic (depending on which side your IF plays) it lines up as follows

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Now here are my 4 test seasons.

First off Arsenal, now as my first season there was a lot of changing the formation/instructions to see what worked mainly the midfield duo

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Now we had a pretty successful season winning the EPL, Community Shield and Champions Cup, missing out on the Capital One Cup in the final and the FA cup QTR final.

Now because it was Arsenal and we had a good transfer budget I thought I'd try a smaller club in the EPL so my second test season I chose Swansea City

Now there was still some changing but eventually stuck with what is now the finished tactic (Just realised i didn't get a screen shot of the League table but here's what i have)

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Now after what i consider a very good season with the Swans this was the formation/instructions i would be sticking with.

now for my 3rd and 4th seasons i wanted to test the tactic abroad, maybe not with the lowest of the low, but not the usual suspects.

So season 3 i chose Hoffenheim and well the tactic killed in Germany

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Now again what i consider a good season winning the league and German Cup (brought in Patrick Roberts on loan from Man City and he was awesome)

Then finally i chose to play in France as i have not played there before and my team of choice was LOSC, and here's how we did

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And there it is, as you can see the IF plays a lot better than some of the other tactics i've played whether thats Sanchez/Yarmenlenko at Arsenal, Ayew/Montero at Swansea, Volland/Roberts at Hoffenheim or Boufal/Roberts at LOSC they assist, score and get great ratings so again a huge shout out to stefanusgoldi and rseven for there excellent work on the IF issue

So feel free to give it a go, any changes you make that improve the tactic please let me know

Enjoy and happy gaming

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Wow taff!!!!

that looks really good - i look forward to get the time to test it .

again thanks for sharing your great tactics with a lot of proof of how they work and how good they are :)

 

 

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Awesome job on the tactic Taff, great results from teams across different levels. 

I've got to say though that this tactic almost perfectly sums up my frustration with how the IF role works on this years version. My favoured tactic is the same as yours except to move the striker nearest the IF back to a CM position as a DLP, I've been struggling to get an IF and APM into the same team, to the point where I've given up and have swapped my APM to a second BBM.

It seems crazy to me that the IF will cut inside with an APM and two strikers but not an APM and a single striker, which would surely be a more realistic tactical approach.

Anyway good work on the tactic, it is a game and the point is to win, which you're clearly doing :)

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Have a look at the post by stefanusgoldi (Explination of IF) its a great post and really helped me when getting my IF to work better.  

My previous tactic had two strikers an AP, a IF and W and the IF just seemed to struggle but after reading the post mentioned it really helped to understand the issues with the IF in this version of the game

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Yeah, I've read that at great length too and I'm hitting a wall.

Your tactic is a perfect example , play a match with it and watch how the IF behaves first half, then at half time take out 1 of the strikers and put him in CM or DM as a DLP and dont change anything else. Now see how the IF completely changes. If anything I would expect him to cut inside more but he just hugs the touchline.

Then change the APM to BBM and hey presto the IF is back to cutting inside. Makes no sense!

At the minute I'm just playing my APM as a BBM in the hope his creativity still comes to the fore!

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I was struggling to beat smaller teams on my 2nd and 3rd seasons with Marseille, and only finished 2nd and 3rd in the French League 1 using your  3-2-3-2 or the Very Beast, so I decided to give this 4-4-2 a try on my 4th season with Marseille.

Very impressive so far. Eleven victories in the league, and my IF (Lucas Ocampos) is absolutely on fire with 17 goals and 5 assists in 19 games. Great work Taff.

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3 hours ago, Jason Cooper said:

Really good mate can I se your lile team thanks

Here is mi LOSC team (missing my two loan signings Roberts and Malcolm) but pretty much how it lined up (accidentally set the tactic so IF was left instead of right for Roberts but it worked out as Boufal had a cracking season.

49 minutes ago, oMc said:

I was struggling to beat smaller teams on my 2nd and 3rd seasons with Marseille, and only finished 2nd and 3rd in the French League 1 using your  3-2-3-2 or the Very Beast, so I decided to give this 4-4-2 a try on my 4th season with Marseille.

Very impressive so far. Eleven victories in the league, and my IF (Lucas Ocampos) is absolutely on fire with 17 goals and 5 assists in 19 games. Great work Taff.

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Dude glad your getting on well. 

I've forgotten about Ocampos he's a great IF keep me posted with your end of season results

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Hey I've also been struggling with this IF thing... Reading stefanusgoldi's post and this one really helps ! I just move my def mid to attacker and I get this tactic. I'll give it a try and keep you posted.

Thanks for sharing this, great work !

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Thank you for another promissing tactic Taff :)

Good things about this tactic is that the AP and the IF really gets to shine here.

though i personally struggled with the feeling of many of the games were too close and with having clean sheets and getting my TM to score ( maybe a quality of the player issue :D ) its certainly a really good tactic :)!

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Well, been using this tactic for 5-6 matches with Monaco and I must say the IF is finally useful on the pitch ! Thanks a lot. Will post screens when possible.

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2 minutes ago, Gonzolito said:

Well, been using this tactic for 5-6 matches with Monaco and I must say the IF is finally useful on the pitch ! Thanks a lot. Will post screens when possible.

Glad it's helped but like i said most of the thanks should go to stefanusgoldi and rseven for their work on explaining the IF problem

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22 hours ago, panjalakuruchi said:

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I tried this for one game and bang!!! I can't believe my eyes!!! 

That is an insane result, i haven't had anything that good.  Did you keep using the tactic after this game

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Hi mate is the center backs have to be limited or can they both be normal center backs. Could you look at Brightons team and possibly tell me what players should go were thanks

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12 hours ago, Jason Cooper said:

Hi mate is the center backs have to be limited or can they both be normal center backs. Could you look at Brightons team and possibly tell me what players should go were thanks

I'm running a test save with Brighton now to give me a better idea of how to run the squad.  The one thing i will say from a quick glance art the squad is to play with the IF on the right as there are two decent IF's and two left W, then maybe its just a case of looking at loans and free agents, i picked up Nuno Andre Coelho for my CD for free and i've just sold Beram Kayal to Celta for £5m which lets me in turn look at buying in a decent striker

 

10 hours ago, Schwantz34 said:

Not working for me as Wolfsburg on Enhanced engine.

Sorry to hear it's not working for you fella, seemed to kill in Germany when i used Hoffenheim.  It can take a while for the players to get used to the formation, but it just doesnt work for some teams, i tried a save with both Newport Co and Sassulo and they just kept getting draws or losses with the occasional win.  Keep it up and let me know how a full season goes

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21 hours ago, Jason Cooper said:

Hi mate is the center backs have to be limited or can they both be normal center backs. Could you look at Brightons team and possibly tell me what players should go were thanks

Well here we are finished my season with Brighton and did ok

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Ok so we did really good

Here's how my team lined up for the most part (subs on the right)

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Manu on the Right was (for the most part) great but we had Monakana who was also a good IF and my front two (although having bad patches) were great too

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and here's the season results

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as you can see long spells of draws and losses but enough good wins (especially when i got my midfield pair the right way around) to see us crowned champions.  Also a great result reaching the FA cup semi finals beating Man U on the way.

And finally got myself a little award too

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So i hope this helps and let me know how you get on

 

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Sorry Taff.. Was busy... For ur question after that 10-0 results what I did was to uninstall the whole game and started playing Liverpool from the start all the way ur tactic... It was superb with this tactic I unlocked sugar daddy on the 3rd season and also unlocked national team after england won the world cup using this... 

My manager stats 

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Just to share more... Ensure u really have a superb player playing as inside forward... 

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Sorry Taff I did not take season after season results.. What I remember is that won all leagues in 4 seasons.. 

Here u go mate!!! 

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Sorry too many pictures I took and paste here!!! 

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On 1/28/2016 at 04:12, Taff said:

I'm running a test save with Brighton now to give me a better idea of how to run the squad.  The one thing i will say from a quick glance art the squad is to play with the IF on the right as there are two decent IF's and two left W, then maybe its just a case of looking at loans and free agents, i picked up Nuno Andre Coelho for my CD for free and i've just sold Beram Kayal to Celta for £5m which lets me in turn look at buying in a decent striker

 

Sorry to hear it's not working for you fella, seemed to kill in Germany when i used Hoffenheim.  It can take a while for the players to get used to the formation, but it just doesnt work for some teams, i tried a save with both Newport Co and Sassulo and they just kept getting draws or losses with the occasional win.  Keep it up and let me know how a full season goes

I got battered using it, but then after switching to other tactics I'm not doing well with those either.

 

Might just be a Wolfsburg thing. Nothing seems to work. On Original engine I can have them challenging Bayern, on Enhanced can't even make the top 5.

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