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Chat Staff: how do they function?


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As someone who skipped fmm2016, I haven't the faintest idea of how coaches/scouts/physios/even the new AsstMgr mechanic works.

Is there any guide thread for newbs like me? Especially since physios are new addition to '17 version.

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Honestly, they're not very impactful in the grand scheme of things. For coaches, sometimes they make a slightly better impact on a player based on their specialty but it's hard to say how meaningful it is. They can also better estimate player PA with higher level badges.

Scouts specialize in finding certain types of players instead of just having a generic scout. Since it's all a black box calculation behind the scenes, it's also hard to say how useful it is. But stay away from bargain hunters and tactical scouts as those specialties seem particularly undercooked.

Physios - preventative is good as it allows you to do intensive training with less injuries. Others are a matter of taste. Just click on the ? next to their specialty to find out what it does. 

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Coaches help players improve in the area they specialize in - if someone is a defensive coach then defensive players will be slightly boosted by them, general coaches help everyone but 'less so' than specialized coaches.

The coaches also help the team very slightly on a match day (boosting relevant players on the team very slightly in their area) and its worth noting that the players coming through from the youth team are biased towards your areas of strongest coaching (with a bigger bias being given from you as a manager if you're also a coach).

Scouts do what they say on the tin - they allow scouting and the better the scout then the more information, players etc. they return.

Physios come in two types - prevention (stop injuries happening) and rehabilitation (help people recover once they're injured).
Prevention physios will also help players endure slightly heavier training regimes which can help elderly players or players with very poor stamina etc.

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21 minutes ago, Marc Vaughan said:


Physios come in two types - prevention (stop injuries happening) and rehabilitation (help people recover once they're injured).
Prevention physios will also help players endure slightly heavier training regimes which can help elderly players or players with very poor stamina etc.

Marc, do physio effects stack additively or multiplicatively? For example my entire back room is prevention guys. Is there a diminishing return?

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1 hour ago, veerus said:

Marc, do physio effects stack additively or multiplicatively? For example my entire back room is prevention guys. Is there a diminishing return?

They stack generally, however be aware that sometimes a specific physio is present for an incident and tested against.

(so in general more is better - but sometimes if you have disparate physios (say two bronze and one gold) a check might be made against one of the Bronze chaps and not the gold one)

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10 minutes ago, veerus said:

Thanks. One more question - do fitness coaches "boost" everyone's fitness training since that's not a match-day positional specialty?

And to clarify - does fitness mean condition (i.e. recover faster after matches) or physical stats (pace, stamina, strength)?

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1 hour ago, veerus said:

And to clarify - does fitness mean condition (i.e. recover faster after matches) or physical stats (pace, stamina, strength)?

Fitness coaches will still help players improve in technical areas (abeit more slowly than other coaches) but also have a heavier weighting with improvement of physical stats (pace, stamina, strength, aerial ability) and retention of these as players age.

While I'm here the other 'oddity' coach is "Motivational" - they help in technical areas (but worse than other coaches) ... however they also help players morale and attitude generally (inc. game day) but will also help improve players personalities when they're younger meaning you're less likely to have lazy prima-donnas etc.

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4 hours ago, Marc Vaughan said:

Fitness coaches will still help players improve in technical areas (abeit more slowly than other coaches) but also have a heavier weighting with improvement of physical stats (pace, stamina, strength, aerial ability) and retention of these as players age.

While I'm here the other 'oddity' coach is "Motivational" - they help in technical areas (but worse than other coaches) ... however they also help players morale and attitude generally (inc. game day) but will also help improve players personalities when they're younger meaning you're less likely to have lazy prima-donnas etc.

Very useful explanation. One more quesion about fitness coach. You mentioned fitness help improving aerial. This aerial is for GK or other playets? Aerial for non-gk players is difficult to improve. I have no idea for fitness training can improve heading and also jumping reach.

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Good catch.  I thought defending trained the Heading stat.  Does this imply that fitness trains it?

Then again, I thought strength was kind of a proxy for aerial ability.

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On 23/12/2016 at 17:08, Marc Vaughan said:

Coaches help players improve in the area they specialize in - if someone is a defensive coach then defensive players will be slightly boosted by them, general coaches help everyone but 'less so' than specialized coaches.

@Marc Vaughan So is it better to have all general coaches at high levels than a specialist in each position? 

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13 minutes ago, Rumtickler said:

@Marc Vaughan So is it better to have all general coaches at high levels than a specialist in each position? 

It depends what you're looking for the specialists affect only specific players .... however this also makes them far more targeted which can male them useful (i.e. if you have a huge squad but really want your 18 year old wonder kid striker to improve then an attacking coach is more likely to affect him than a general one).

The specialized coaches will also give a more focused effect on a team on match day then general coaches will .. so a motivational coach will be very useful in keeping a team motivated during a poor run etc.

(as with much of football there isn't a 'perfect' answer for all occasions - it's partially dependent on what you as the manager think is the most important thing)

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