Tactics DesChyko's 4-1-2-2-1Tactics + Training Full Guide (EME)

[DesChyko0]

I will be sharing an instructive guide on this tactics. It's actually a modification of the stock 4-1-2-2-1 that is found in the game's formations list. This is actually a defensive formation but it's really about mass attack for me.

The formation is based on really powerful wingers particularly. They play as Inside Forwards (IF) from both wings either side of a Deep Lying Forward (DLF) who links up with the midfield to score goals and create chances as well especially for the IFs.

Two Advanced Playmakers (AP) ensure that the forwards are never short on service and the combination of a Deep Lying Playmaker (DLP) in the midfield and a Ball Playing Defender (BPD) in the defence help translate defence to attack quickly with Wing Backs (WB) roaming to cover up spaces left on the flanks by the Inside Forwards when they roam in.

The Centre Back (CB) is perhaps the only truly defensive minded player on the pitch but the set up helps shore up gaps whether attacking or defending.

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INSTRUCTIONS:

The team is set up to attack from the word 'go' and keep possession with 'short passing'. Since they're pretty much playing as a unit, the focus is 'mixed' as well as the goalie's distribution. The tackling is put at 'normal' to avoid conceding careless chances or fouls which may disrupt the rhythm of play.

Aside pressing the opposition, the others are turned off because keeping offside trap may expose the goalie badly, counter attacking will make the team surrender possession and 'men behind the ball' is not in line with the attacking mentality.

[DesChyko0]

TRAINING:

Slight adjustments were made to @Chelsea8 regime.

IF & DLF : Attacking

AP: General

DLP, WB, BPD: Technical

CB: Defending

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RESULTS:

In the particular season in review, some good winning streaks were recorded; See below

[DesChyko0]

And here are some impressive results/results against top sides in the league(s)

[Crusade9]

I tried a similar tactic but had cm roles for the 2 midfielders, and poacher up top on balanced mentality. How many goals your IFs and DLF score that season,and total league goals, if it's alright with you? 

Results below

[Crusade9]

[AndersJ]

Looking solid in deed, what other teams did you test it with in the first season/year 2016/2017 :)?

[AndersJ]

Short test with Inter.

it Seems very solid, and i imagine with the right players ( like any other tactic ) i could easy dominate SerieA.

funny that i struggled against the poor teams.

 

[DesChyko0]

1 hour ago, Crusade9 said:

I tried a similar tactic but had cm roles for the 2 midfielders, and poacher up top on balanced mentality. How many goals your IFs and DLF score that season,and total league goals, if it's alright with you? 

Results below

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Wow.. Your stats look way better. I tallied 98 goals and conceded 15 in the league. I sort of rotate the squad a lot especially in those close fixtures but my DLF scored quite lower this season compared to last season when I set this formation up for the first time

Here are the goals scored in this order: DLF, AP, IF(R2), IF(L2), IF(L), IF(R), DLF(2), AP(2), IF(R Loan) and AP.

Did you have yours on a topic here? Please share. I like those stats ???

[DesChyko0]

1 hour ago, AndersJ said:

Looking solid in deed, what other teams did you test it with in the first season/year 2016/2017 :)?

Oh well.. I just set this up last season after my second UCL finals defeat ? . In the Vanarama and before this, I was using @Slambo's 4-3-2-1 and @Aangca's 4-3-1-2 though I never expected it to hold up in the top league.

After spending time two seasons back on 'Key Player Attributes' by @Dec this was what I came up with. It was a success last season with same club. Maybe I'll try it out with other clubs quickly.

[Crusade9]

35 minutes ago, DesChyko0 said:

Wow.. Your stats look way better. I tallied 98 goals and conceded 15 in the league. I sort of rotate the squad a lot especially in those close fixtures but my DLF scored quite lower this season compared to last season when I set this formation up for the first time

Here are the goals scored in this order: DLF, AP, IF(R2), IF(L2), IF(L), IF(R), DLF(2), AP(2), IF(R Loan) and AP.

Did you have yours on a topic here? Please share. I like those stats ???

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Ah I see, I didn't rotate my poacher and IFs much. I was actually trying to hit 1000 career goals with my poacher, but it might not happen. I don't have a post yet but I'll make one after the current season as I didn't save the results and goals spreadsheet from last season. Maybe in 2 days??

[DesChyko0]

4 hours ago, Crusade9 said:

Ah I see, I didn't rotate my poacher and IFs much. I was actually trying to hit 1000 career goals with my poacher, but it might not happen. I don't have a post yet but I'll make one after the current season as I didn't save the results and goals spreadsheet from last season. Maybe in 2 days??

1000 Goals!! I'm actually wondering how possible that is with injuries and drops in form all over. You're talking a 16-year old giving 50 goals per season for 20 years!!

[AndersJ]

It has been seen before - 1000k Challenges if you look around in this great community :)!

[Nick11]

7 hours ago, AndersJ said:

Short test with Inter.

it Seems very solid, and i imagine with the right players ( like any other tactic ) i could easy dominate SerieA.

funny that i struggled against the poor teams.

 

 

 

Poor teams are way too defensive & on EME breaking down defensive formation isn't that easy. This might be one of the reasons behind big teams struggling against weak teams. 

I generally play CA football with no press against poor teams , just to invite up on the pitch . So it becomes easy to break them.

[Nick11]

The @DesChyko0mate can you upload few pics of players (before & after IT).

Your tactics is ver good , i used to play with same tactics except two APM .. where i  used AP & BWM/CM combination. 

[AndersJ]

2 hours ago, Nick11 said:

Poor teams are way too defensive & on EME breaking down defensive formation isn't that easy. This might be one of the reasons behind big teams struggling against weak teams. 

I generally play CA football with no press against poor teams , just to invite up on the pitch . So it becomes easy to break them.

So fx attack , direct and counter but no press?

[Crusade9]

@DesChyko0 

I changed to attacking mentality and it made a noticeable difference, tho fell short of last season's 105 points 

[Crusade9]

12 hours ago, Nick11 said:

Poor teams are way too defensive & on EME breaking down defensive formation isn't that easy. This might be one of the reasons behind big teams struggling against weak teams. 

I generally play CA football with no press against poor teams , just to invite up on the pitch . So it becomes easy to break them.

That is so true. I usually see poor teams play 11 behind ball until I  make the breakthrough. So pissy and some games end up 25 shots with only a goal.

[Nick11]

13 hours ago, AndersJ said:

So fx attack , direct and counter but no press?

What is fx ?? Im bit confused.

 

2 hours ago, Crusade9 said:

That is so true. I usually see poor teams play 11 behind ball until I  make the breakthrough. So pissy and some games end up 25 shots with only a goal.

Even if have have 25+ you cannot score if you fail to make space. Either you tweak tactics or you need to have custom plug& play tactics (generally posted by BatiGoal ...taff ).  

When you tweak you need to keep few things in your mind. 

1)always look at their tactics. If they are using only one ST then you can cope against them by playing only one CB + FBs/WBs. This way you can youse one extra player in your midfield & that's big plus (i generally use that extra man as BWM placed b/w Defense & Midfield)

2) Always try to outnumber them.

3) Isolate their attacker from Midfielders & cutoff their supply.

These tips ain't gonna help you in achieving 1K but you can enjoy the game . It is like real-life game where manager keep tweaking their tactics (Gourdiola Pep). 

If you are interested in this Tweaking thing i can help you or you can read my Guide [Tweaking During Game]

[Crusade9]

48 minutes ago, Nick11 said:

What is fx ?? Im bit confused.

 

Even if have have 25+ you cannot score if you fail to make space. Either you tweak tactics or you need to have custom plug& play tactics (generally posted by BatiGoal ...taff ).  

When you tweak you need to keep few things in your mind. 

1)always look at their tactics. If they are using only one ST then you can cope against them by playing only one CB + FBs/WBs. This way you can youse one extra player in your midfield & that's big plus (i generally use that extra man as BWM placed b/w Defense & Midfield)

2) Always try to outnumber them.

3) Isolate their attacker from Midfielders & cutoff their supply.

These tips ain't gonna help you in achieving 1K but you can enjoy the game . It is like real-life game where manager keep tweaking their tactics (Gourdiola Pep). 

If you are interested in this Tweaking thing i can help you or you can read my Guide [Tweaking During Game]

How did that work out for you? Could I see your table? My next challenge is trying to get maxed points in epl. I don't know is anyone's done that. Always a few frustrating games in the way. I'll incorporate your 1 cb tactics in those kinda games, see how it works.

[AndersJ]

1 hour ago, Nick11 said:

What is fx ?? Im bit confused.

 

Even if have have 25+ you cannot score if you fail to make space. Either you tweak tactics or you need to have custom plug& play tactics (generally posted by BatiGoal ...taff ).  

When you tweak you need to keep few things in your mind. 

1)always look at their tactics. If they are using only one ST then you can cope against them by playing only one CB + FBs/WBs. This way you can youse one extra player in your midfield & that's big plus (i generally use that extra man as BWM placed b/w Defense & Midfield)

2) Always try to outnumber them.

3) Isolate their attacker from Midfielders & cutoff their supply.

These tips ain't gonna help you in achieving 1K but you can enjoy the game . It is like real-life game where manager keep tweaking their tactics (Gourdiola Pep). 

If you are interested in this Tweaking thing i can help you or you can read my Guide [Tweaking During Game]

Yeah i dont know the excact english word for it. So what you mean is.

no press, but attack, direct and counter?

[Nick11]

@AndersJ  yeah mate .  No pressing Counter attack enabled  

@Crusade9 Sorry to but im not playing the game at this moment.  Here you can see what i was asking you to do ↓ @AndersJ mate see this link. Here you can find the Info .

 

[Brenty92]

3 hours ago, AndersJ said:

Yeah i dont know the excact english word for it. So what you mean is.

no press, but attack, direct and counter?

When you say fx, do you mean 'for example'

[DesChyko0]

On 6/22/2017 at 14:55, Nick11 said:

The @DesChyko0mate can you upload few pics of players (before & after IT).

Your tactics is ver good , i used to play with same tactics except two APM .. where i  used AP & BWM/CM combination. 

I will work on this.. Have the next 96 hours to FMM at will ??

[DesChyko0]

15 hours ago, Crusade9 said:

@DesChyko0 

I changed to attacking mentality and it made a noticeable difference, tho fell short of last season's 105 points 

In comparison to the other season of yours, they attacked more but didn't kill off a number of games. Could this be because of the DLF not being up front always ??

[DesChyko0]

Another test with Llandudno in Wales.. Not such a great club since the players are mostly **** compared to the 'stars' I'm used to playing with.

But so far, it's holding up. I used it in the second season and managed to get results against the top teams: TNS, Bala, Bangor City and Connah Quays.

However, the team seem to struggle against weaker teams. I tried Turning off the Pressing against a weaker team much later (Afan Lido) but even though I won, it wasn't as impressive as I expected. Come end of season, I'll have a concise report on the test.

Attached therein is the best player in the squad so you get an idea the team I'm working with ??